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PrintSarah Palin Breaks the Mold - Resigns - Outsmarting Her Tormentors Once Again
News Type: Event — Fri Jul 3, 2009 5:33 PM EDT
Liberal's love to hate her, even trembling with rage at the mere mention of her name. Sarah Palin marches to the beat of her own drummer. A Patriotic American Drummer
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Seizing the moment unexpectedly once again, Sarah Palin has sucked all the oxygen out of all the Newsrooms from coast to coast. Planned newscasts have ground to a standstill as she dominates the 24 Hour News Cycles
Today, Sarah Palin announced not only that she would not seek re-election as Governor of Alaska, but also that within a few days she will be turning over the governorship to her Lt. governor
She reminded Americans that with all the negative attacks on herself, her children and her family, the taxpaying residents of Alaska have had to shell out a few million dollars to defend the governor's office against a continuing series of blatantly frivolous ethics lawsuits. There were 15 that were simply spiteful, hateful attacks and ankle biting, eant to hurt the people of Alaska by subjecting Sarah Palin to the bloodletting of a thousand tiny cuts
Those 15 ethics complaints have all been dismissed, but the citizens of Alaska have been greatly inconvenienced b mostly outside interest groups, and the Governor herself is out of pocket about a Half million Dollars
That being the case, today Sarah Palin delivered a brilliant and unexpected message that completely took her hate filled enemies by complete surprise
She is removing herself as an excuse for the never ending attacks against the leader Alaskans chose when they voted their preference
Now, with this sacrifice, Palin creates a positive environment for Alaska politics to proceed without the demands of liberals to drain the state's coffers of money better spent on Alaska's real needs and priorities
Once again, Palin has dominated the National Conversation and leave her detractors, who were all set to corner her and taste her blood, madly barking at the moon
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| Andrea Mitchell: Palin Out of Politics, Period. End of story..... | Daily Kos | Fri Jul 3 | 177 |
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{"commentId":8010298,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
With what some perceive as an admission of defeat, some see as the inevitable final curtain of a woefully unqualified national disgrace, and millions see as a bold, innovative, unexpected Glass Ceiling Breaking Initiative, Sarah Palin has once again done what she does what she does best, confound her detractors
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- 12 votes
#1 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 5:37 PM EDT{"commentId":8012248,"authorDomain":"arsine3463"}
Outsmarted? Oh, you devil.
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- 11 votes
{"commentId":8012400,"authorDomain":"eric24"}
Agreed alanwillingham! Good article.
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- 8 votes
{"commentId":8012624,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
Now, with this sacrifice, Palin creates a positive environment for Alaska politics to proceed without the demands of liberals to drain the state's coffers of money better spent on Alaska's real needs and priorities
hehe. Droll. Nice piece.
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- 8 votes
{"commentId":8013426,"authorDomain":"USA4Him"}
I am happy for her, all those frivolous, UNFOUNDED ethics violations brought up against her were not only embarrassing for her tormentors but ridiculous!?
They should be forced to pay the millions of dollars that the State of Alaska had to pay to defend her.
May God Bless her and her family and her future.
Also, this article was an extremely well written article. Good seed. The only seed about Palin that worth me visiting.
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- 8 votes
{"commentId":8013990,"authorDomain":"katlin"}
one of the best articles I have read on this alan...I'm sure all the libs are gnashing their teeth and baying at the moon as we speak.[ well they certainly are on other threads] once again palin has showed the integrity and honesty that is lacking from the current lib camp.........her speech was certainly refreshing in that no telepromters, no e-mailed questions, no audience with campaign workers posing as a unfortunate citizen to push forth an agenda...just honesty and showing the libs that they are hateful, care nothing about wasting everyone else's money, and a blind alleigence to known failed policies and incompetent politicans......what ever her future plans , I'm sure she'll have a strong voice within the republican party...
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":8014708,"authorDomain":"adklugherz"}
Hopefully if she gets elected president she'll quit that too.
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- 16 votes
{"commentId":8014773,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Indeed and I hope so after 8 years in the Presidency.
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- 7 votes
{"commentId":8015144,"authorDomain":"schnoo"}
Once again, Palin has dominated the National Conversation
Exactly where does that conversation group meet. I'd love to attend.
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- 13 votes
{"commentId":8015427,"authorDomain":"iceman6"}
I would say that the Sarah Palin thing was like the kids who put the flaming bag of dog poo on the porch, ring the doorbell and run...but...
In this case, Sarah was the flaming bag.
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- 14 votes
{"commentId":8015571,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
and the only one's touting her greatness were........
the geese, goats, chickens, cows, and sheep in the background.
meep! meep!
{"commentId":8015571,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"susibv"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":8015591,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
alan, you're right about the lefties trembling with rage. Even with her resignation, they're probably spinning and squirting poo.
{"commentId":8015591,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":8015630,"authorDomain":"iceman6"}
No, we are still laughing at her.
{"commentId":8015630,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"iceman6"}
- 14 votes
{"commentId":8015672,"authorDomain":"immaginedigitalimag"}
trembling with rage at the mere mention of her name. Sarah Palin marches to the beat of her own drummer. A Patriotic American Drummer
Mark Twain on Patriotism
"Patriotism is usually the refuge of the scoundrel. He is the man who talks the loudest."
- Education and Citizenship speech, 5/14/1908
"Patriot: the person who can holler the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about."
- More Maxims of Mark, 1927
The only thing about Sarah Palin that makes me tremble, are the people who would vote for her - people who might write the following kind of letter-to-the-editor;
i like sarah palin she seems nice and she is pritty to. i will vote for her cause she is a hoc key mom just like me i am a socker mom. and she is funy to like when she said she is a pit bull dog with lip stick. Dogs dont have lipstik shes funy. sarah smiles a lot and wears nice close like when she gave her talk the other nite on tv. and her kids look nice too and they allso look healthee. some times i wish i had health care like when my kids get sik. my car has a bumper stiker it says im PRO-foundly stupid and i vote.
A. Macarthur
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- 19 votes
{"commentId":8015949,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Susi, oh, Susi,
You can't stop posting about Sarah. I see myself because I voted for her and would like to see her as my President in 2012, but the posters that dislike her?
I can't believe, she will be out of the picture for a while and then.....according with her spokewoman the sky is the ceiling.
Even tonight I will watch (or try) the despicable Lettermaaaaaaaaaaaan
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8016334,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
Jackson's death means Obama can't name him ambassador of pop. May pop czar. He really hadn't decided.
Now that you mention it, Letterman probably harbors those kinds of thoughts about all young girls.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":8016423,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Obama's girls are not fair game and I will criticize whoever bring something of bad taste.
Alan, you remember how despicable were the left side of the aisle with the Bush's twins.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8016451,"authorDomain":"schnoo"}
As far as we know, Palin's kids haven't gotten fallen down drunk yet.
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- 11 votes
{"commentId":8016807,"authorDomain":"davetopper"}
Sarah Palin didn't quit, she ran.
She ran away from her conflicts, ran away from criticism, ran away from her problems.
And she was the greatest hope that some people of the right had for the run for president in 2012.
I wonder if they still feel that way.
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- 14 votes
{"commentId":8016889,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Of course that we still support her. She will have 4 years of running free, giving speeches, maybe substituting Couric or Letterman and a 5 a.m. job in Fox.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":8016995,"authorDomain":"TrailofTales"}
Good for Sarah! She's got the guts to tell all to stick it and live her own life.
Now, she can play all by her own rules. Whether she's drawing out deserving Congressional garbage for dumping or pursuing a higher office of responsibility, this woman speaks from the heart, a personal quality of character known, but rarely show among the lemmings gathered upon both East and West Coasts.
Go get 'em girl!
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- 6 votes
{"commentId":8017072,"authorDomain":"geejay"}
once again palin has showed the integrity and honesty
Quitting is showing integrity?
Not where I come from.
It's the mark of a coward.
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- 13 votes
{"commentId":8017873,"authorDomain":"USA4Him"}
She did not "quit" per say... she refuses to play into the dirty hands of her haters, bringing up unfounded ethics violations is costing her state, that she really loves, millions of taxpayers $$ in her defense against all the bogus lies.
Let's see how long it will take for her enemies to find some more lies against her...
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- 6 votes
{"commentId":8018019,"authorDomain":"iceman6"}
You keep repeating that mantra, I see she still has you fooled.
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- 10 votes
{"commentId":8018533,"authorDomain":"dnhunter"}
USA4Him,
Please document your sources for this allegation that you and your lemming like brethren keep repeating over and over regarding these millions of dollars coming from Alaskan taxpayers for Palin's defense over the various ethics violations? Back it up or shut up about it as it's not true and never has been.
Here's a story from an Alaskan new source that hasn't been refuted by Palin or anyone in her camp.
http://www.themudflats.net/2009/07/02/numbers-shmumbers/
Numbers Shmumbers… 07/02/09
“In the past two years, the state of Alaska has spent millions of dollars processing ethics complaints, public records requests, and related lawsuits.”
That was the claim coming from the office of Governor Sarah Palin, who likes to use the phrase “frivolous ethics complaints.” That was nine days ago.
Today, we learn that “millions of dollars” is in fact, actually $296,000, as far as ethics complaints go. Numbers shmumbers.
The complete breakdown is not yet available, but we do know this about the three spendiest ones:
$187,797 stemmed from the Troopergate investigation, a good chunk of which Palin initiated herself. We’ll get back to that.
$43,028 stemmed from a complaint by Andree McLeod which resulted in a recommendation that a state employee undergo ethics training for a series of “troubling emails.”
$29,962 most likely came from the “travel gate” investigation in which Palin reimbursed almost $10,000 for expenses billed to the state for her children’s travel expenses.
That’s the top three, none of which sound particularly “frivolous.” So once we crunch the numbers, it’s highly likely that the most expensive investigation brought about by an individual, is Palin’s investigation of herself. And let’s just review that one more time.
The Legislature found enough evidence to approve $100,000 to investigate Palin’s firing of the Commissioner of Public Safety, in light of accusations that he was dismissed for not firing her ex-brother-in-law with whom there was bad blood. They spent $75,000 of the money allocated, and the bipartisan Legislative Council (composed of 8 Republicans and 4 Democrats) voted unanimously to go forward. An independent investigation by someone that they all agreed to found that Palin violated the Executive Branch Ethics Act. They unanimously voted to release that decision to the public.
As a counter-measure, and a panicked move to look good during the campaign, Palin (with the advice from the McCain cadre of lawyers headed up by Ed O’Callaghan who had no license to practice law in the State of Alaska) initiated her own ethics complaint against herself, knowing that the outcome would be decided by a friendly panel of governor-appointed people who report to her. Guess what? They found her innocent, and refused to even investigate the matter of testimony from Palin that went completely against testimony from the former commissioner. Frivolous ethics complaint? No….a calculated one that the state paid for.
What did the legislature do about their own $75,000 investigation that found the governor in violation of the Ethics Act? Nothing. So, why did we, as a state, pay that $75,000? What did we get for that money? Maybe that’s the question we should be asking.
Speaking of not knowing what you get for your money…
Palin herself reportedly has incurred over $600,000 in personal legal bills defending against complaints, although she won’t provide a breakdown of the expenses or what cases they were for. Palin friends and supporters set up a legal defense fund and are soliciting contributions for her legal bills.
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- 16 votes
{"commentId":8019238,"authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}
what did we do with the bush girls we wouldnt have done to any celb?
we laughed when they got drunk
we laughed when they got high with Aston kutcher.
but other than that..w e left them alone.. they are cute girls and are not their father just as their father wasnt his father.
your really going to have to link me to the attacks on the bush girls more than making fun of their antics.
which is fair game when you are a celb, even a reluctant one.
palin is awesome i bet she drops politics.. she can make much more money with less stress and more guarenteed sucess than running for president.
She went from no one to a household name.
she is cute, quirky and has personality.
If she doesnt take advantage of that to it;s fullest she is insane..
Look at it this way.. you think rush would ever want to quit his job and become president?
I doubt it.
Palin has higher goals than the presidency IMO.
And someone like her has the power to get it.
you betcha
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- 8 votes
{"commentId":8019275,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
Palin has higher goals than the presidency IMO.
Think Rush Limbaugh.
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- 8 votes
{"commentId":8019313,"authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
If I chose/appointed my own jury I would "get" off too. What a joke! (Note to self don't track, bogus)
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":8021096,"authorDomain":"bfbell"}
Schnoo
As far as we know, Palin's kids haven't gotten fallen down drunk yet.
Of course this statement was for the Bush twins Barbara and Jenna Bush buying drinks in their college years. True they were underage, but more important than that is they were the daughter of George Bush......so many college kids are breaking that law....
When Jenna got married, newsvine couldn't wait til the I do"s before getting around the circuit that Jenna is pregnant and tried to prove on Photos that she had a baby bump when she didn't and her figure had never looked better.
So my thoughts here are why trash people's children just because you don't like their parents, or more so because you are a democrat and they are republican's children.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8022519,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8022558,"authorDomain":"sti"}
Wow, talk about twisted logic! Sarah Palin quit her job and quit on her constituents when they needed her most, well, maybe not her but someone leading the state.
There is so much obfuscation going on that I cannot let it rest. First and foremost let's dispel this idea that she quit to save the state of Alaska money that was spent defending her from ethics charges.
She reminded Americans that with all the negative attacks on herself, her children and her family, the taxpaying residents of Alaska have had to shell out a few million dollars to defend the governor's office against a continuing series of blatantly frivolous ethics lawsuits. There were 15 that were simply spiteful, hateful attacks and ankle biting, meant to hurt the people of Alaska by subjecting Sarah Palin to the bloodletting of a thousand tiny cuts.
If as the artcle states, these were,
...a continuing series of blatantly frivolous ethics lawsuits.
then why didn't the court simply dismiss them as frivolous lawsuits. The courts dismiss thousands of lawsuits that are frivolous everyday.
Those 15 ethics complaints have all been dismissed, but the citizens of Alaska have been greatly inconvenienced by mostly outside interest groups, and the Governor herself is out of pocket about a Half million Dollars
This comment is a bit confusing in its content. Earlier in the article it was stated that,
...the taxpaying residents of Alaska have had to shell out a few million dollars to defend the governor's ...
Then there's this statement,
...the Governor herself is out of pocket about a half million dollars.
So who is paying for the defense of Palin over these ethics violations? This is a key question because the articles author is attempting to have it both ways. Since Palin was a sitting governor the key question is why is she paying, out of pocket, for supposedly frivolous ethics violations? The state attorney general should be asking for the charges to be dismissed and if they aren't the state will defend her as its sitting governor. Her defense is part of the states budget allocation as the attorney general will defend her, unless of course the charges aren't frivolous, in which case she has to defend herself. Ergo, the main question, how has this costed the state of Alaska,
...million dollars to defend the governor's office...
as she has forwarded as her reason for stepping down???
She is removing herself as an excuse for the never ending attacks against the leader Alaskans chose when they voted their preference.
There's an old saying, "if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen!"
USA4him wrote in post# 1.4:
They should be forced to pay the millions of dollars that the State of Alaska had to pay to defend her.
Why is that, as was stated earlier, if the charges are unfounded and indeed frivolous, why doesn't the state dismiss the charges as such?
Then there is the specter that the governor may be facing new ethics charges that we aren't yet privy to, charges that aren't unfounded or frivolous. In which case she will be required to fork out for her own defense. (or her PAC will defend her)
Funny thing is, the author of this article put it best when he/she said:
...some perceive as an admission of defeat, some see as the inevitable final curtain of a woefully unqualified national disgrace...
That about sums up Sarah Palin. Good riddance!
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- 11 votes
{"commentId":8023906,"authorDomain":"st-theresa"}
I really thought this was going to be satirical. Funny, anyway!
{"commentId":8023906,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"st-theresa"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":8024487,"authorDomain":"iceman6"}
bye bye ballyhoo barbie
{"commentId":8024487,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"iceman6"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":8027480,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
alan, it's important to heed the Obama robots' reaction.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":8030046,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8030431,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
Somewhere, over the rainbow, way up high.
There's a land that I heard of Once in a lullaby.
Somewhere, over the rainbow, skies are blue.
And the dreams that you dare to dream
Really do come true.
Someday I'll wish upon a star and wake up where the clouds are far Behind me.
Where troubles melt like lemon drops, Away above the chimney tops.
That's where you'll find me.
Somewhere, over the rainbow, bluebirds fly. Birds fly over the rainbow,
Why then - oh, why can't I?
If happy little bluebirds fly beyond the rainbow,
Why, oh, why can't I?
{"commentId":8030431,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"susibv"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":8030787,"authorDomain":"kentraci1011"}
Lol! Now that was funny!
{"commentId":8030787,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"kentraci1011"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8040947,"authorDomain":"pharris7329"}
I fervently hope Palin stays gone from public office. She's a hateful right wing goofy b--ch.
A better looking Phylis Schaffley.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8059503,"authorDomain":"ungerbn"}
Wow. The GOP really knows how to pick 'em, don't they?
Personally, I feel less threated by some of the Manson Family rules than I do with Republican "Family Values."
{"commentId":8059503,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"ungerbn"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8059766,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8065478,"authorDomain":"ungerbn"}
The GOP picked McCain and McCain picked Palin.
By the Transitive Property of Idiocy, the GOP picked Palin.
Accept it, Alan.
Be an adult.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8067652,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8070760,"authorDomain":"ungerbn"}
Judging by the last 8 years, I thought that accuracy had been removed from the list of Republican "family values" for being too idealistic.
Ironically, my first comment was accurate.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8387135,"authorDomain":"rayjs"}
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{"commentId":8390591,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
I am not in the right, I am an Independent voter and I am very happy with Palin.
{"commentId":8390591,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8391843,"authorDomain":"rayjs"}
The GOP picked McCain and McCain picked Palin.
By the Transitive Property of Idiocy, the GOP picked Palin
And America rejected them both.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8392328,"authorDomain":"rayjs"}
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{"commentId":8411432,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
Why does this keep popping into my tracker?
Please stop.
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{"commentId":8411927,"authorDomain":"rayjs"}
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{"commentId":8413604,"authorDomain":"rayjs"}
Judging by the last 8 years, I thought that accuracy had been removed from the list of Republican "family values" for being too idealistic.
The right is not happy with Palin.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8413651,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
This "Palin" video is not a COH violation, or is it worth deleting Sir.
Take down your article, Leave garyray-501488 post up, or contact the staff. Just because you disagree does not give you the right to delete somthing.
Read the COH for yourself and see.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8414105,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8419485,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
The video equates those on this site and this article who are "on the right" with Hitler and Nazi's
That being the case, your headline itself indicts people "on the left" as "tormentors."
Comments that are grossly off-topic may be deleted.
The video is a spoof about Sarah Palin. What are the first two words in your headline?
Harassment and/or intimidation of others on Newsvine will not be tolerated...
As should be. Harassment also includes removal of posts that you just disagree with. As for feeling "harassed" by the link, it seems you are the only one here who has a issue with it.
{"commentId":8419485,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8420372,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
The video equates those on this site and this article who are "on the right" with Hitler and Nazi's
Are you all on the Right wing going to stop Calling Democrats socialist and communist then, if not just implying it, and claiming that you are infallible? You think this may have somthing to do with the GOP's credability?
Just maybe?
The right even deny their own History and that Fascist's are Right-Wing, calling them "Liberals' when any good dictioanary says this.
The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach. Source; New American Oxford.
And History tells the truth...
The Liberal State is a mask behind which there is no face; it is a scaffolding behind which there is no building. Benito Mussolini
"Fascism, the more it considers and observes the future and the development of humanity, quite apart from political considerations of the moment, believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace."~ Benito Mussolini
"Fascism, which was not afraid to call itself reactionary... does not hesitate to call itself illiberal and anti-liberal. Benito Mussolini
Ever read 1984, or see the movie? Ignoring History or rewriting it is a sign of totalitarianism.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816.
So... Extremist occur on both ends of the rug and can unravel at the fringe. Ignore one end is not the solution. Maybe if the Right looked behind them once in awhile they'd see it unravel from their end.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8424179,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8424322,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8432413,"authorDomain":"ghostrider969"}
{"commentId":8437496,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
Your argument is that all her "Tormentors" are leftists?
Your headline, your assertion, not mine.
{"commentId":8437496,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8438494,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8438601,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
Now you are just prodding with obtusiveness. Waste your own time with another embarrassing retort, I am done here.
{"commentId":8438601,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8451734,"authorDomain":"rayjs"}
Roy Batty,
Now you are just prodding with obtusiveness. Waste your own time with another embarrassing retort, I am done here.
How do we know he is not paid to censor others while posting this "stuff"?
{"commentId":8451734,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"rayjs"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8010851,"authorDomain":"jsunshine122"}
millions see as a bold, innovative, unexpected Glass Ceiling Breaking Initiative
Well, those millions are wrong. You can't break a glass ceiling if you bounce off of it once and then quit.
{"commentId":8010851,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"jsunshine122"}
- 14 votes
#2 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:00 PM EDT{"commentId":8010953,"authorDomain":"Shrubluv"}
well bouncing off would require her going all the way, she only went half way to the glass ceiling and then quit :)
{"commentId":8010953,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"Shrubluv"}
- 12 votes
{"commentId":8011558,"authorDomain":"geejay"}
imagine the audacity of the Pinata to not allow any more blind revelers to take cheap shots at her
Her quitting doesn't mean that the issues she has vanish.
No one respects or elects a quitter. And that's what Sarah has proven to be.
{"commentId":8011558,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"geejay"}
- 14 votes
{"commentId":8011689,"authorDomain":"newsblog903"}
A quitter and a moron.
{"commentId":8011689,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"newsblog903"}
- 16 votes
{"commentId":8012153,"authorDomain":"jsunshine122"}
Do I understand you support her beginning a run for the presidency in 2012 while serving as Alaska's goveror?
No, not at all. Why would I want someone to run for president if they can't even hack it as governor?
{"commentId":8012153,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"jsunshine122"}
- 15 votes
{"commentId":8012395,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Why would I want someone to run for president if they can't even hack it as governor?
Paraphrasing:
Why would I want someone to run for president if they can't even hack it as US Senators?
{"commentId":8012395,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":8012766,"authorDomain":"jsunshine122"}
Why would I want someone to run for president if they can't even hack it as US Senators?
Who quit their job as a US Senator 3 1/2 years before taking a run at the presidency? BTW, please don't paraphrase my comments in the future. Speak for yourself or respond to my comments directly, but don't put words in my mouth.
{"commentId":8012766,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"jsunshine122"}
- 15 votes
{"commentId":8018807,"authorDomain":"kentraci1011"}
She never got anywhere near a glass ceiling. She was appointed Vice Presidential candidate without having run in a primary. Nobody had ever heard of her a year ago. Please! I pray to god you run her against Obama. The world will piss itself laughing at her.
{"commentId":8018807,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"kentraci1011"}
- 11 votes
{"commentId":8021666,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
Odd prayer, indeed. Why not pray Barack admits he subscribes to Wright's separatist filth? A bit of honesty would do that fellow good.
{"commentId":8021666,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8024605,"authorDomain":"dnhunter"}
allanwillingham said:
"It is good to see a politician with integrity for a change"
"Most of them would stay in office drawing paychecks and taking travel junkets to Paris on the taxpayer's"
"Obama keep cashing his senator's checks while he was gone all over the country looking for another job."
#2.9 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:39 PM EDT
You mean integrity like the kind referenced in these e-mails below from Sarah Palin herself where she attempts to rewrite history and lies her ass off every step of the way? That's your idea of integrity,is it?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/01/politics/main5128672.shtml
http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-10-08/news/the-book-of-sarah/5
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/03/palin-hockey-arena-scandal/
{"commentId":8024605,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"dnhunter"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":8025286,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Alan,
Now we are the laugh of the world. I read the reviews from the Arab News Press and today's in Russia and our President Obama had and has been called that he is not prepared for the job.
All this is not counting France and Germany.
So much noises about Mrs. Palin and where are we now?
Hitting the bottom
{"commentId":8025286,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8025397,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
I know, the world is very "pleased".
{"commentId":8025397,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":8432419,"authorDomain":"ghostrider969"}
{"commentId":8442226,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Now we are in the 6 months of our President's administration and his polls are falling down, down and down.
The poor President has to operate with the Clintons' loyals.
{"commentId":8442226,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
{"commentId":8447563,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
His numbers were phenomenally high for so long, now they are realistic considering all the slander from the RIGHTIES,, but still I think his numbers will rebound.
He's still way, way, way, above the Republicans, or anyone in that debunked party, who are a joke to the majority and have fallen below even the Libertarians..
And like with everything else, the GOP are the only ones who don't have a clue.
{"commentId":8447563,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8447769,"authorDomain":"ghostrider969"}
{"commentId":8447813,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
That was not even coherent.
{"commentId":8447813,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8448094,"authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
Dan you must take a course in GOPanese, here let me "cypher" for you.
the next leader with actual leadership experience
won't be
the GOP
You just have to read it backasswards. I know it's tuff but there are a few GOPers in my family.
{"commentId":8448094,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
{"commentId":8011612,"authorDomain":"newsblog903"}
Great Sarah, don't let the door slam you in the ass.
{"commentId":8011612,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"newsblog903"}
- 12 votes
#3 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:34 PM EDT{"commentId":8025414,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Nah, her burundongo is not as large as Jen Lopez, a supporter and big money donator for the Dems.
{"commentId":8025414,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":8390505,"authorDomain":"rayjs"}
Does she know what a door is?
{"commentId":8390505,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"rayjs"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8011881,"authorDomain":"cannae234"}
Sarah Palin Breaks the Mold - Resigns - Outsmarting Her Tormentors Once Again
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Oh wait you're serious? I didn't think Sarah Palin and "outsmart" could possibly go together in a sentence without it being the punchline of a joke!!!
{"commentId":8011881,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"cannae234"}
- 16 votes
#4 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:49 PM EDT{"commentId":8015457,"authorDomain":"iceman6"}
It is the punchline of this joke.
{"commentId":8015457,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"iceman6"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":8015981,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
RMM, are you nervous? The woman spoke from her heart and without teleprompter.
{"commentId":8015981,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":8018064,"authorDomain":"cannae234"}
RMM, are you nervous? The woman spoke from her heart and without teleprompter.
ALL politicians speak from teleprompters, which makes her stupidity all that much more hilarious to watch. I was nervous; but only that Palin might actually become the second most powerful person in the country. Wheeeewww!!!
{"commentId":8018064,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"cannae234"}
- 9 votes
{"commentId":8018122,"authorDomain":"cannae234"}
Keep thinking that way....
I plan on it; being right is a gratifying feeling.
{"commentId":8018122,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"cannae234"}
- 10 votes
{"commentId":8018843,"authorDomain":"iceman6"}
The woman spoke from her heart and without teleprompter.
The woman spoke nonsense.
{"commentId":8018843,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"iceman6"}
- 11 votes
{"commentId":8023069,"authorDomain":"cannae234"}
And isn't it amazing that a woman most liberals agree doesn't have either a clue or a snowball's chance in hell, gets them so antsy and paranoid they can't help obsessing about her?
People get obsessed with Paris Hilton, or Ashton Kutcher, or those chicks from the Hills. It's called celebrity worship, Palin's famous: thus people are going to obsess over her. That doesn't mean she's clever, or suited for public office, it just means she's famous. Popularity doesn't mean anything in this country other than people know your name, it's your actions that speak volumes. So far Palin's actions have been those of a witless soccer mom trying to play a game that's waaaaay over her head. She's the William Hung of politics.
{"commentId":8023069,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"cannae234"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":8023323,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8026898,"authorDomain":"hmm"}
The woman spoke from her heart and without teleprompter.
She used note cards. Republicans hadn't yet discovered telepromters. This is something to brag about?
Please WE BEG YOU GOP!!!! RUN Sarah Palin in 2012 !!!
{"commentId":8026898,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"hmm"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":8027485,"authorDomain":"redsfan"}
Again with the teleprompter...why is using a teleprompter a bad thing? it's just a high-tech stack of note card.
{"commentId":8027485,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"redsfan"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8031175,"authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
When you have to use a teleprompter to announce the name of the new Cabinet head, you have sunk to a new low. The reason it's a bad thing - it means you don't have any original thoughts on a subject and you have "to stay on message" so you don't get slammed by your own hypocrisy. Maybe that's why Palin didn't use one, and Obama does - ALL THE TIME!
{"commentId":8031175,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":8031306,"authorDomain":"fadeplayer"}
I'll set aside the fact that you're a Vol fan, but you have got to be kidding right? Everyone uses a teleprompter all the time when addressing a crowd. That's why they invented them . . . so you don't have to look at your notes; like by the way, everyone used to do before teleprompters. It's not Obama's fault that Bush still found some way to fork up his speech delivery despite his ever present teleprompter.
This BS is so tirsome at this point. It's like saying, "but he's always wearing a suit; lets see how he can do in a T-shirt." Teleprompters are ubiquitous and have been for some time now; get over it.
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":8033649,"authorDomain":"schnoo"}
fade
But what about teleprompters that don't have a US birth certificate? Huh, answer me that one.
{"commentId":8033649,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"schnoo"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":8034500,"authorDomain":"bfbell"}
Fadeplayer
Did you watch Sarah Palin's speech, she did look down at her notes, but I didn't notice her eyes following a teleprompter. She spoke like she is speaking to every person, OBAMA, however gets on stage and just looks over a crowd and reads his speech. The same tone every time. When he speaks it is like listening to someone sing different lyrics to the same music.....Ya know what I mean?
{"commentId":8034500,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"bfbell"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":8035534,"authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
Palin and the teleprompter
http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/Palin%20teleprompter%2011-1-08.jpg
http://media.photobucket.com/image/palin%20teleprompter/barbara76/prompter.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00CF5kUchl0WT/610x.jpg
So Palin doesn't use one uh? BS
{"commentId":8035534,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8036797,"authorDomain":"fadeplayer"}
Alan, the McCain people are out in front of this one because Sarah is about to burn. They want no association with her right now. There's something brewing and bubbling around the Palin camp, and no one wants to get hit when it blows up.
Deep down Alan, you know how this is going to end and it isn't going to be pretty. Every time someone voluntarily gives up power, it is either preceded by or followed by a major eruption. All of the signs are there, media blamestorm, your own team running away, and the unexpected awkward resignation.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":8037080,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8037292,"authorDomain":"fadeplayer"}
By most accounts, Palin is a crooked self-serving politician. She might not "make sense" or "act intelligent" or "know anything about foreign policy" but she's a classic example of politics as usual.
If she thinks the media is out to get her now, wait until Fox News turns on her if she tries to run as a third party candidate.
{"commentId":8037292,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"fadeplayer"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8037332,"authorDomain":"iceman6"}
How about a mental exercise in fact, a candidate chosen exclusively because she was a woman, so helplessly naive, unprepared, and DUMB that even her own party found her appalling, leading to the election of the opposition.
{"commentId":8037332,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"iceman6"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8038872,"authorDomain":"cannae234"}
How about Palin considering the American people are so sick and tired of crooked, self serving politicians and the Business as Usual Pork Groveling?
Somehow SHE'S the one who's going to change all that? Gimme a freaking break!! The fact that the right still keeps singing this woman's praises, when she hasn't done @!$%#, tells me that Republican voters will vote for literally anyone the GOP puts out in front. I was amazed that she was even a governor, I wouldn't trust Palin to run a toll booth let alone an entire state!!!
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":8046578,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
However, Mrs. Governor sat down with the shark lawyers of the oil companies.
If Sarah Palin was good enough to run with a lame duck candidate like John McCain (my respects for being a war hero and vet), they have to accept her now for what she is and without pre-conditions with the humilliation of having to wear clothes that she did not pick.
And all this is what disgusted me in the past about the male politicians, only Romney is different from the pack that ran the last year.
{"commentId":8046578,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
{"commentId":8047708,"authorDomain":"fadeplayer"}
If Sarah Palin was good enough to run with a lame duck candidate like John McCain (my respects for being a war hero and vet), they have to accept her now for what she is and without pre-conditions with the humilliation of having to wear clothes that she did not pick.
John McCain, isn't that the guy that won his (your) primaries? Freshly elected lame duck? A lame duck governor with 1/3 of her term left? Is that what your party has become; lame ducks?
That term used to mean something; apparently now the term "lame duck" only applies to the front runners of the Republican party. That's a bad place for Republican's to be.
It's a great place for American's to be. Hip Hip . . . Horray
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{"commentId":8052205,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8052619,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
As a result he election was lost from days one because McCain was not onl a lame decision, but an insulting and in-your-face statement to the conservatives who could carry thew election
I'm not sure I agree entirely. The popularity of the previous Republican president was certainly a factor.
In any case McCain was certainly a compromise for the Republican party in terms of conservatism. And while the election of Obama was a solid win, it really wasn't what one could call a landslide.
{"commentId":8052619,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8054361,"authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
Isn't a Lame Duck one with a foot injury swimming in circles?
{"commentId":8054361,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
{"commentId":8058807,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8066567,"authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
Well it wasn't what I was getting at, but thanks for the info.
{"commentId":8066567,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
{"commentId":8067667,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8067751,"authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
Hey we are here to get smarter, Right? :)
{"commentId":8067751,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
{"commentId":8067967,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8011952,"authorDomain":"ScienceGuy"}
For Palin to leave before the end of her term without explanation to her constituency is extremely self-serving, no matter how she tries to spin it.
Palin is an extremely ambitious person. I can appreciate that quality (although I don't respect many of her methods). And if her goal is to run for office at the national level, that is her right.
However, if her reasons for resigning are to prepare for a 2010 campaign run for Senate, then she should have the courage of her convictions and respect for her constituency and say so. To avoid explaining her reasons is sheer selfishness and cowardice.
Bottom line: nobody likes a quitter.
{"commentId":8011952,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"ScienceGuy"}
- 12 votes
#5 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:52 PM EDT{"commentId":8012212,"authorDomain":"jsunshine122"}
I actually think that one of these ethics investigations turned up some dirt on her, and she was given the choice to either resign or have it be released to the public. There's really no other good explanation for her resigning before the end of her term. If she needed the money she could have just waited and then not make a bid for re-election in 2010. and if she needed to spend more time with her family she could stop holding daily press conferences.
{"commentId":8012212,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"jsunshine122"}
- 14 votes
{"commentId":8012488,"authorDomain":"ScienceGuy"}
"I actually think that one of these ethics investigations turned up some dirt on her"
If true, then it would be unethical for the investigators NOT to reveal the findings to the public, because there is no reason to believe that she would not engage in the same inappropriate conduct should she attain national office.
Of course, without further revelations forthcoming, it's all highly speculative.
{"commentId":8012488,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"ScienceGuy"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":8012651,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Oh, please. See Illinois for reference.........
I just love the bad wishes for the Governor of Alaska.
{"commentId":8012651,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":8012695,"authorDomain":"ScienceGuy"}
Ex-governor Big-Hair IS being investigated further, and he was never a serious contender for national office. So what's your point?
{"commentId":8012695,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"ScienceGuy"}
- 9 votes
{"commentId":8013084,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
Of course, without further revelations forthcoming, it's all highly speculative.
And that is the problem ... that void of information invites speculation.
Pailin is up to something, no doubt. While many have reservations about her cognitive abilities, her level of political astuteness brought her all the way to the office of Governor. That fact demands some respect.
A US Senate seat for Alaska is up for grabs in 2010, as it the Representives seat. At age 45, she has plenty of time and opportunity to hone her chops in Congress before a run for the Presidency. After all, Hillary Clinton was a viable candidate at 61.
{"commentId":8013084,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8013900,"authorDomain":"ScienceGuy"}
If her objective was a 2012 run for POTUS, she would have been better off finishing her term as governor and simply announcing that she would not re-run for office.
To quit after 2 1/2 years in her first term as governor suggests a person who cannot multitask, handle the pressures that come with the job (working with the legislature, dealing with the press, etc), and someone who is more interesting in being in the spotlight and waving to the crowds than she is in being a serious political force.
{"commentId":8013900,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"ScienceGuy"}
- 9 votes
{"commentId":8014787,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
No time for today's politics. Sarah Palin doesn't have the big money behind her like the Chicago machine.
{"commentId":8014787,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":8017097,"authorDomain":"geejay"}
At age 45, she has plenty of time and opportunity to hone her chops in Congress before a run for the Presidency.
But she's now a quitter. I don't think most people like quitters or trust them.
{"commentId":8017097,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"geejay"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":8019044,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
But she's now a quitter. I don't think most people like quitters or trust them.
Normally I agree. But consider:
"I leave you gentleman now and you will write it. You will interpret it. That's your right. But as I leave you I want you to know — just think how much you're going to be missing. You won't have Nixon to kick around any more, because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference and it will be one in which I have welcomed the opportunity to test wits with you." --Richard Nixon, November 1962
Richard Nixon was elected president in 1968.
Don't overestimate the memory of the American Public. And we are dealing with the Republican party, hungry and desperate for someone to hang on to.
{"commentId":8019044,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8019161,"authorDomain":"katlin"}
obama left his senate job after 2 yrs to run for president and basically left the people of Ill unrepresented..he didn't have enough scuples then to come out and say it so he continued to bilk the taxpayers out of a salary while they got nothing for it...that's much worse than to just quit a job when you know you can't give your all to it...
{"commentId":8019161,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"katlin"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8019290,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
that's much worse than to just quit a job when you know you can't give your all to it...
At least we understood his reason. We don't yet understand Palin's.
{"commentId":8019290,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":8024781,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Sarah explained in the form of a game. A better and another way to play ball and not of the one one that the men had been doing from the better to the worse..
{"commentId":8024781,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8025451,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Why you in the left wants that Sarah does like you want her to do?
She wanted to quit now and raise money, well, Ob ama wrote two books to throw himself and from organizer to President..
Mrs. Palin is Mrs. Palin and not a Hillary or the rest of the women in our Congress: Boring.
{"commentId":8025451,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8027292,"authorDomain":"geejay"}
Palin couldn't hack being governor and running for higher office.
And no, she's not like other women in Congress (save for Bachmann). Those other women have brains and abilities to do more than wink and lie.
{"commentId":8027292,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"geejay"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":8027362,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
U-betcha they do. LOL
{"commentId":8027362,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":8027432,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Sure, like Milkuski and Boxer ? Femininity at their best.
{"commentId":8027432,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8027675,"authorDomain":"geejay"}
They are both intelligent, accomplished women, det. Palin's unintelligent and a quitter.
{"commentId":8027675,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"geejay"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8027861,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
A quitter to write in twitter.
{"commentId":8027861,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8030495,"authorDomain":"ScienceGuy"}
Kaitlin said: "obama left his senate job after 2 yrs to run for president"
Did Palin announce her candidacy for a specific office at the national level? I must have missed that part of her meandering speech.
Palin claims that she left office before finishing her first term because she desires to "serve a higher calling" (what ever that might be). Basically, this is Palin-spin for "my current job has become a ball-and-chain holding me back from pursuing my personal ambitions and my desires to attain greater wealth and political clout in the lower 48".
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":8031292,"authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
Old Dem Talking Points: She's running around making speeches and not taking care of the people of Alaska and probably at the taxpayers expense. How dare she do this to the people of her state". (to me that sounds like John McCain, John Edward, Hillary, Biden and Obama)
New Dem Talking Points: Courtesy of Jones Girl. People are never satisfied!
But she's now a quitter. I don't think most people like quitters or trust them.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":8037937,"authorDomain":"geejay"}
Vol, please explain how Palin isn't a quitter. Did she not just quit?
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8046298,"authorDomain":"katlin"}
the difference is obama in all intents and purposes did quit being a senator of Ill after just 2 yrs but continued to draw a paycheck and bilk the people of Ill out of proper representation and he had no reservations about it. remember all the absent votes? the highest # in their history. He also does not care how much tax money is used to fight the many lawsuits I'm sure that are coming his way.
Palin on the other hand had the foresight and honesty to quit and therfore quit drawing a paycheck for a job she could not give her all to. now all we have is her word for it that she quit to protect her family and for a higher calling. I do not know what she means by higher calling and neither does anyone else outside of her family...
I do not hold her being a quitter against her as Jones would imply. I do however hold it against someone like obama who would hold onto a job and draw a paycheck under false pretenses...
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8046474,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
Sorry, But I live here in Illinois. Good try.
Not voting on bills by our state legislators doesn't mean that they where not there. It only means they have not made a decision or need to do more research.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8046592,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Read the text of her speech about "quitting".
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8046786,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8047064,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
Pointless. This is so old. A "non" vote is not a "no" vote or a "yes" vote in this state.
How A Bill Becomes Law in Illinois
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8050808,"authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle
In other words...do nothing, which he did and all the while getting a salary to do nothing. Thanks for pointing that out.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8051357,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
In no other words.. In those words.
It means to take carefully consideration before you make decisions and act on them. Or disregard it as nonsense. Don't make hasty judgments.. i.e. like invade the wrong country.
Do you guys think everything is in code? LOL, it just english. The liberal code book is top secret.. it's called a dictionary. there is nothing between the lines.
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{"commentId":8012589,"authorDomain":"tslavings"}
So many people, who don't even the person, loves to bash any Republican.
If it was Hilary people would have been very upset. Why don't we start with the first lady, you know the one that looks like a pitbull, but was voted in the top 100 attractive women by a liberal rag.
I hope that her choice to quit makes her happy and not the @!$%#s around her!
{"commentId":8012589,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"tslavings"}
- 3 votes
#6 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 7:29 PM EDT{"commentId":8012723,"authorDomain":"ScienceGuy"}
I have no clue what you are talking about, other than to make it clear that there are still many proud racists in the GOP.
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- 10 votes
{"commentId":8012933,"authorDomain":"tslavings"}
Democrates hate Republicans, Hilary is (D) and nobody has bashed her the way they have tried to destroy Palin (R).
The same way that most Libeeral newspapers and mags have treated the first lady like a goddess. Whats up with that?
I guess that someday the people will open their eyes and see the truth about Obama.
Since he has been in office my eyes are now opened much more and I voted for the man. I really hate to say that.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8013057,"authorDomain":"stevencwatts"}
Democrates hate Republicans, Hilary is (D) and nobody has bashed her the way they have tried to destroy Palin (R).
Really? You just called her a pitbull.
There's been plenty of criticism towards Hilary, but most of it was based on her looks or demeanor. She's a bit of a prickly person. People have criticized Palin for what they feel is a lack of substance and thought behind her words. Criticism for both has been pretty harsh; it sounds like you're just upset that Hilary's didn't stick. Because, quite frankly, "pitbull" looks and a prickly demeanor don't compromise your ability to be an effective politician. Lack of substance in words and research does.
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- 13 votes
{"commentId":8013277,"authorDomain":"tslavings"}
I am no politician but thanks anyway, I could never be like them nor would I want to be. By the way have you seen her side profile, you know the one with the hugh underbite? I said she LOOKS LIKE one, I would never say she was one.
By the way people DID make up lies about Palin and were exposed for them, and they also found that she did nothing wrong from the investagations. Until they do I will hold my tounge to myself about it, I was raised to repect women, even the first lady.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8030277,"authorDomain":"petalsndreams2002"}
Huh?! See #1.27
{"commentId":8030277,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"petalsndreams2002"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8012855,"authorDomain":"stevencwatts"}
This is a nice spin attempt, but I think it's too early to call it in any way.
In the pro-Palin camp, this isn't going to end the scrutiny and criticisms. Every issue she struggled with before is still there, still open for critique. If anything this magnifies the criticism and adds more to the pot, since it was done in such a bizarre and unconventional way. Any attempt at public office will be met with calling her a quitter and the question of whether she'll bother seeing it through. So it's too early to call it a smart political move.
On the other hand, it's also too early to assume that she'll fail outright. There may not be any impending scandal, and a few years of money raising as a private citizen would put her in a better financial situation for 2012. A lot can change in three years, and she already has a good base of support in hardcore Republican circles. If she can devote those three years to becoming more popular with independent voters, then she might have a shot - particularly if the economic downturn doesn't recover very quickly.
All in all, I've heard Republicans saying for the last few months that she's the great white hope. This article and ones like it strike me as attempting to keep that hope alive in spite of this new development. Let's just call it what it is: an incredibly risky political move. Maybe she has no intention of staying in politics, in which case it's a wash. But if she does, this is dangerous.
I recall when McCain first picked her, I said that single idea would either win him the election or lose him the election. This move seems to be the same level of gambling.
Off the subject, could we stop calling her critics "tormenters"? She's a polarizing political figure, open to the same amount and type of critique as any politician. I don't know how her supporters got the idea that she should be exempt from scrutiny, but please change your mind about that right now. No politician should be free from criticism. I voted for Obama, and I disagree with people who look for things to criticize, but I would never demonize them by calling them "tormenters" and implying that they shouldn't be there. They should be. They always should be, for everyone.
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- 9 votes
#7 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 7:42 PM EDT{"commentId":8016106,"authorDomain":"MoCowgirl"}
I voted for Obama, and don't alway agree with him. I was a Republican, but couldn't agree with Palin on anything. Her lack of diplomacy, and knowledge of current events in this country and abroad was frightening for VP choice.
I will never understand why we as a country would not be apprehensive about having someone without proper communication skills talking with leaders of foreign governments. She couldn't answer simple questions about what she read, and completely ignored questions in the debate. It didn't play well in this country, and I shudder to think what she would have said to leaders of other countries.
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- 7 votes
{"commentId":8016479,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Mo,
Palin torn apart Joe Biden in the debate.
About meeting personalities she went to the United Nations and she dazzled many there.
Do you think that a Governor is an educated politician?
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8016686,"authorDomain":"stevencwatts"}
Her critics will attack her no matter what she does, so why worry about them? They would never voe for her anyway
I think you may have missed my point. I'm not talking about her critics. The hardcore conservatives will support her pretty much no matter what, and the hardcore liberals will oppose her pretty much no matter what. The group that matters is in the middle: independents. She doesn't have their loyalty, and she's not going to gain it by looking like she can't take some political heat.
That has nothing to do with political debate or a comparison of policies and ideas, those are intended to torment
You could probably find isolated incidents of some of those, but let's go for intellectual honesty here. The vast majority of the left wasn't doing any of those things. If she can't handle a few fringe members saying ridiculous things, she should never be POTUS. That is the definition of thin-skinned.
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- 8 votes
{"commentId":8017119,"authorDomain":"geejay"}
Palin torn apart Joe Biden in the debate.
LOL!
Revisionism. Palin wouldn't answer the questions put to her and looked like a moron winking and acting like a 20 year old sorority girl.
{"commentId":8017119,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"geejay"}
- 10 votes
{"commentId":8017152,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8017309,"authorDomain":"geejay"}
Gee, alan, maybe it is because Michelle Obama never:
- Waved her children around at rallies, even though noise and lights can be detrimental to special needs infants?
- Threatened to hide behind a child if boo'ed at a hockey game (as Palin did with whatever the youngest girl's name is)
- Carried on about abstinence only sex-ed being great while knowing that her own daughter is preggers out of marriage and it occurred under her roof?
- Picked a fight with the father of her grandson when he dared to offer his side of the story?
Palin can't have it both ways---if she wants to campaign with the kiddies, then she opens up her family to comment. She isn't special or holy or anything.
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- 13 votes
{"commentId":8019300,"authorDomain":"katlin"}
yes alan the left and the democrats certainly showed their true persona of hatred and calling children names....something they should be proud of and it certainly hasn't been lost on a great many americans that obama was a big part of this by his silence........... never before in the history of politics has a family esp children been so attacked and villified...what is ever more disturbing is that these same hypocrites are the ones to cry the loudest when anything is said about that amazon in the WH or her 2 nappy headed brats...:)
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8019391,"authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
Palin torn apart Joe Biden in the debate.
What debate did you watch? She never answered any questions, did not engage in the debate at all and Biden was laughing at her. She was a joke! Say it ain't so Joe, wink, wink, you betcha! ROFLMAO
{"commentId":8019391,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":8022481,"authorDomain":"stevencwatts"}
Compared to that, Palin's family and children have been mercilessly attacked day in and day out in National News
But they weren't. That's what I'm saying. Provide some evidence for these claims if you insist on continuing to make them.
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- 8 votes
{"commentId":8024816,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Palin torn apart Joe Biden.
We can see him now how he can't keep a straight thought together. He is unglued.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":8031363,"authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
Compared to that, Palin's family and children have been mercilessly attacked day in and day out in National NewsBut they weren't. That's what I'm saying. Provide some evidence for these claims if you insist on continuing to make them.
Good Lord, Steve, do you NOT watch TV or read the internet, magazines or papers??
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":8043850,"authorDomain":"stevencwatts"}
Good Lord, Steve, do you NOT watch TV or read the internet, magazines or papers??
If the evidence is so readily apparent that you feel justified in talking down to me, it should be pretty easy to find it instead of just feigning incredulity.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8044666,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
Sophistry comes from the right.
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{"commentId":8050951,"authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
okay, sorry there steve. Ok, How about David Letterman recently, how about CBS< NBC< SNL <ABC< Keith Oberface, MSNBC <any number of magazines, Fox (minus Greta who seems to like her and keeps interviewing her),I mean they sent up a squad of "investigative reporters" to find anything they could on her... the incredulity on my part was due to the idea that you tried to float - that it isn't out there.
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{"commentId":8051235,"authorDomain":"bfbell"}
Vol Fan
You are totally right the media has from the night she gave her (SARAH PALIN) brilliant speech at the RNC, they have done nothing but harassed her and her family....with unproven lies and everything that she said was cut down by all NBC<>CBS<>SNL<> ABC<> MSNBC and bloggers every where.... no she hasn't been treated fairly.
{"commentId":8051235,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"bfbell"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":8052376,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8053688,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
Dan Hallo, aka, Zoilus - Sophistry comes from the right.Are you on record now as being against sophistication?.
Might I suggest a dictionary? It helps you understand what words mean.
{"commentId":8053688,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8053944,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
I Know the word 'Sophistry" I used and what it means, apparently you don't.
It is not a derivative of "sophisticate," or "sophistication".. you need to look it up yourself genius.
Oh here... you might not know how...
Sophisty: subtly deceptive reasoning or argumentation.
Gives you a nice little sound bite to pronounce it for you as well.
Have a nice day Roy.
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{"commentId":8059148,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8059185,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8060086,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
I didn't need to look it up, (read the context of my post, it is used a correctly} I provided the link for the ingrate. But thanks.
{"commentId":8060086,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8075744,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
You quoted us both, so I don't know which you are admonishing
You. You are the one making the comparison, so that should have been obvious.
Congratulations on your knowledge of Etymology. As a student of that discipline, you must know that just because words can share the same root origin, that does not mean they have similar modern day meanings.
{"commentId":8075744,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8076014,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8076602,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
Roy, Have you ever heard the axiom that others might just suspect that you;re dumb, until you open your mouth and prove it. I'm as ignorant as anyone, but at least I'm smart enough to admit it and learn from it. Not ramble on and foolishly paint myself in a corner.
Sophistry and sophisticate, are not in anyway similar in meaning or origin, except they both come from Lain origins they could not be any more different in meaning without being antonymous.
What?
Did you google Etymology and think you found a way out of the shame of your public display of Ignorance? Are you going to entertain us with some more misinformation?
The wise thing to do would have been to be humble about it, or at least to have shut-up, rather then to continue to demean yourself..
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{"commentId":8078388,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
Roy, Have you ever heard the axiom that others might just suspect that you;re dumb, until you open your mouth and prove it. I'm as ignorant as anyone, but at least I'm smart enough to admit it and learn from it. Not ramble on and foolishly paint myself in a corner.
Sophistry and sophisticate, are not in anyway similar in meaning or origin, except they both come from Lain origins they could not be any more different in meaning without being antonymous.
I agree with you 100%!!! Did you really mean address to me ... or alanwillingham?
{"commentId":8078388,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8078618,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
You... are pathetic.
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{"commentId":8079530,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
Did you actually go back and read the posts? Who wrote what? WTF?
{"commentId":8079530,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8081683,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
WTF!
alanwillingham has nothing to do with this!
No real man could read these post and not step up and take his responsibility for them? He would be a worthless coward! That's absurd!
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{"commentId":8083517,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
Just to dispel all the BS.
Sophistry; Latin sophisticatus ‘tampered with,’ past participle of the verb sophisticare, from sophisticus ‘sophistic.’
sophisticate; Latin from Greek sophistēs, from sophizesthai ‘devise, become wise,’ from sophos ‘wise.’
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{"commentId":8084385,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
No real man could read these post and not step up and take his responsibility for them? He would be a worthless coward! That's absurd!
What posts? I still don't know who you are talking about! ME? What have I written I "have not takes responsibility for? Please be clearer.
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{"commentId":8013549,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
Off the subject, could we stop calling her critics "tormenters"?
Normally, I'd agree, but the tongue-in-cheek approach of this article almost demands that word.
{"commentId":8013549,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
- 4 votes
#8 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 8:17 PM EDT{"commentId":8014066,"authorDomain":"el-iconoclast"}
Bravo! Way to spin another dismal right related failure. If you guys continue to perform at this level, you can be completely irrelevant come next election cycle.
{"commentId":8014066,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"el-iconoclast"}
- 10 votes
#9 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 8:42 PM EDT{"commentId":8015311,"authorDomain":"ronk"}
Maybe she'll (accentally) be labeled as a Democrat on Fox News.
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- 8 votes
{"commentId":8019407,"authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
EI, Hell they already are. 21% and dropping like flies. Sad really.
{"commentId":8019407,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":8049355,"authorDomain":"bfbell"}
Not voting on bills by our state legislators doesn't mean that they where not there. It only means they have not made a decision or need to do more research.
Oh, so voting PRESENT everytime as OBAMA did means "He can't make a decision".....well he shows that by the way he flip flops even with, where in the heck is the insurance plan going.....not the way he campaigned that is for sure......the lady that was interviewed that night at the DNC thinking her mortgage payment and gas for her car and whatever else she was hoping that OBAMA is going to pay, is probably very disappointed right now......
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8049504,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
I guess playing dumb is method acting.
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{"commentId":8049865,"authorDomain":"bfbell"}
I guess playing dumb is method acting.
So that is what OBAMA is doing, Playing Dumb?
{"commentId":8049865,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"bfbell"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":8050158,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
So very clever.. Just keep on twisting what I say, it reflects on your lack of integrity, and that of the GOP's that you defend. Not on me or anyone else.
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{"commentId":8050781,"authorDomain":"bfbell"}
Dan
Really, I think that is what is going on, well with an exception Obama is not playing...I don't know if he really knows what he believes he has so many people telling him what to do.....I blame them all, and especially Obama for not caring about America....his heart is somewhere else.....On Youtube where he is wishing everyone a happy 4th, he can't do it without reading a script.....Now that is sad....
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":8051612,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
When has being able to read a speech you've written been a failing? name a president who did not read a speech that they wrote? Reagan? Bush? Name one.
It would by funny if it not so Pathetic.. the arguments from the right just make them less and LESS. credible. Your cutting your own throat with this nonsense.
{"commentId":8051612,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
{"commentId":8015254,"authorDomain":"bigmeat42"}
Wow people.... this author is smoking something powerful. Wow ole Palin outsmart us. What is this author trying to do. Is he trying to change the minds of most Americans who see Palin has a thief, hypocrite, liar and most important, a divider of Americans.
{"commentId":8015254,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"bigmeat42"}
- 8 votes
#10 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 9:46 PM EDT{"commentId":8015477,"authorDomain":"iceman6"}
Yep, that is our Sarah, Standard Bearer for the new right, sheets and all.
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- 8 votes
{"commentId":8017400,"authorDomain":"iceman6"}
Wow,
That is one of the things I LOVE about you guys. You get the talking points memo and you just run with the nonsense either unwilling or unable to think it through. Those democrats for the most part became Republicans, it was part of the "Southern Strategy".
From wikipedia:
Although the phrase "Southern strategy" is often attributed to Richard Nixon strategist Kevin Phillips, he did not originate it,[1] but merely popularized it.[2] In an interview included in a 1970 New York Times article, he touched on its essence:
- From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.[3]
The folks wearing sheets these days are standing in YOUR ranks, in fact, it's about all ya'll got left after morons like Rush and Sad Little Sarah have led your party off-stage right.
{"commentId":8017400,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"iceman6"}
- 9 votes
{"commentId":8015400,"authorDomain":"redsfan"}
So nice of Palin to take all the attention away from the "tea parties"....I'll bet Fox News is not happy about this.
{"commentId":8015400,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"redsfan"}
- 6 votes
#11 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 9:54 PM EDT{"commentId":8015894,"authorDomain":"ScienceGuy"}
Palin, and now her spin doctor Meg Stapleton, keeps using this silly metaphor about being a point guard and passing the ball to another player while driving down the court.
Well, if she really wants to use this analogy accurately, she has essentially pulled herself out of the game because the defensive pressure was too intense for her to handle.
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- 7 votes
#12 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:23 PM EDT{"commentId":8016065,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
The Dems/Left/males in the Republican Party wish to have the popularity of Sarah Palin.
My friends attended the rallies and they got a bad cold but for Sarah they did not mind.
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":8026992,"authorDomain":"hmm"}
My friends attended the rallies and they got a bad cold but for Sarah they did not mind.
I'm willing to bet they also have Sarah Palin posters on their ceilings and a bottles of KY on their side tables.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8015909,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
Our baloney has a first name it's.......S-A-R-A-H!
Our baloney has a second name it's....P-A-L-I-N!
Oh we love to slam it everyday and if you ask us why we'll sayyyyyy....
Cause Sarah Palin has a way with B-O-L-O-G-N-A!
[Paid for by the Go Away and Never Come Back and Play Foundation]
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- 9 votes
#13 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:25 PM EDT{"commentId":8016022,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
I see Sarah substituting Greta van Susteren in Fox once a month. Greta is a great investigator
{"commentId":8016022,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":8016095,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
Determined. Stop replying to anything I say......You've been ignored since before the election.
Nothing has changed. You're still ignored :)
{"commentId":8016095,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"susibv"}
- 9 votes
{"commentId":8016374,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
Do you get to decide who says what?
{"commentId":8016374,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8016520,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
The Sushi lady keeps repeating that I am in her ignore list. I don't give a half of a peanut for the opinions of the left.
{"commentId":8016520,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":8017135,"authorDomain":"geejay"}
Yet you keep responding, det.
{"commentId":8017135,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"geejay"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":8017326,"authorDomain":"geejay"}
Now a response is an attack?
You conservatives are so very thin-skinned.
By your thinking #13.4 is an attack. Please reprimand det--oh, wait, you guys never hold your own to account.
{"commentId":8017326,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"geejay"}
- 10 votes
{"commentId":8017428,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8017441,"authorDomain":"iceman6"}
The right has gotten REALLY kinda whiney-victim since the election. Oh poor them, America rejected them by a LARGE margin and they aren't in charge any more and the rest of us are pretty much ignoring their loony toon right tantrum.
Oh well, fun to watch.
{"commentId":8017441,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"iceman6"}
- 9 votes
{"commentId":8017641,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
You can't be provoked unless you want to be provoked.
Does he honestly think that by continually posting replies to what I say that I'm miraculously going to un-ignore him?
Let's just say the South will rise again and win the Civil War before I click "unignore"
{"commentId":8017641,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"susibv"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":8017690,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
As a matter of fact Backroads.................I can decide who can say what to me, who I choose to respond to............and who I add or accept as friends on here as well as who I ignore............
We all have that ability.
{"commentId":8017690,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"susibv"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":8017794,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
I don't know -- you can't even determine determined's gender. Perhaps you make many wrong choices.
{"commentId":8017794,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":8019479,"authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
You started it
LOL, LOL how third grade.
{"commentId":8019479,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":8022487,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
Point, click, ignore.
Done.
{"commentId":8022487,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"susibv"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":8022502,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
Dave in Ma.
Seriously......LOL!
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8023157,"authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
Did not! :)
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":8025891,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
:) Dave in Ma.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":8026370,"authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
Did Too! :)
{"commentId":8026370,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":8016126,"authorDomain":"brantheilman"}
This article makes me wonder if Sarah Palin's intention in resigning is exactly that, trying to drum up sympathy and support from the far, far right. By having conservative ditto-heads paint her both as an embattled martyr, and as an underappreciated political genius, they add to the myth of her great political importance created during her nomination.
It doesn't matter if she has no substance, no leadership, no political acumen or relevance, as long as they can keep the focus on her they are convinced that the mythos will eventually take hold. Now an ultra-conservative mouthpiece has little mass appeal, but that won't stop them from believing that everyone else is going to share in their delusion of her grandeur.
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- 6 votes
#14 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:37 PM EDT{"commentId":8017359,"authorDomain":"bigmeat42"}
alanwillingham.... don't you dare compare Palin to MLK okay. Palin is a divide among the American people okay. MLK brought all together no matter race, sexuality, creed and most of all the people who didn't have a voice. It is so funny that people call people who back Obama on kool-aide. But det... mention that people stood in the cold and catching colds to hear and see Palin. You people are a bunch of hypocrites who calls Obama "Mr. H
Hollywood"
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- 7 votes
{"commentId":8017543,"authorDomain":"brantheilman"}
At first I wasn't sure how to respond, it seemed like you were attacking Martin Luther King. Then I realize you were trying to compare Sarah Palin to our nations greatest civil rights leader, which, aside form being worthy of falling out of my chair, is also what my comment above addressed.
If your delusional fantasy of conservative greatness leads you to compare Sarah Palin, who has nothing of importance to her name, to someone of Dr. King's stature, then I don't know what to say. But it is your kind that is exactly what Palin and others in the GOP are relying upon to boost their flagging moral and convince themselves that they are still relevant. Just don't expect this delusion to have any appeal to sane people in mainstream America.
THAT, is the problem that all in the GOP (not just Palin) have in front of them. They are increasing choosing delusion over reality, and thinking that will lead them out of the desert.
PS: It was King's substance, leadership. and relevance that lead him to greatness. I see none of those traits in Palin.
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- 8 votes
{"commentId":8017614,"authorDomain":"brantheilman"}
Seeing your second post, it's pretty clear that you are both crazy and spiteful. You may prove my point, but still, shame on you.
{"commentId":8017614,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"brantheilman"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":8019162,"authorDomain":"brantheilman"}
When I first encountered King
I call Bullsh!t
He was a young Baptist preacher with a social conscience who was opposed to the same prejudice I witnessed at that time. His message resonated, and the Democrats reacted toward him as they are toward Palin now
I call Bullsh!t X2
They didn't get it then, and they don't get it now
They thought King's supporters were ignorant backwoods nothings, just as they think the same of Palin's supporters
I call Bullsh!t X3
Now, other than those general characteristics, I am not attempting to equate the two in other areas. I am simply pointing out that the Democrats who are attacking Palin are using the same playbook they always use
I call Bullsh!t X4
I am not a Republican nor a member of the GOP. My preference is to evaluate people for who they are and what they represent.
Now I really call Bullsh!t.
Like I said delusional.
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- 9 votes
{"commentId":8026554,"authorDomain":"brantheilman"}
The flaws in your argument are laughable:
1) You're deflecting and trying to make this an issue of historical knowledge, rather than making an argument in defence of your comparison. But it does not hold to reason that being "familiar" with the history surrounding Dr King will lead me to the same conclusions as yours. This is not a case of me not knowing my history, I do, but of you claiming that the two are equivalent, which is something not apparent in the history books.
2) Saying that X and Y are similar because they share a connection to Z is a fallacy. It does not hold to reason that because Dr. King and Sarah Palin were both "attacked" by Democrats that the two of them are equivalent.
3) Nor does it hold to reason that if both Dr. King and Sarah Palin are victims of a Democratic "attacks" that the "attacks" must be for the same reason.
4) Name dropping (MLK, George Wallace, the KKK, Jim Crow) does not add credence to an argument, nor does trying to associate people with historical heroes or villians. Invoking Martin Luther King Jr. does not automatically make Sarah Palin look better or the Democrats look worse.
I'm done here.
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- 6 votes
{"commentId":8026971,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8031450,"authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
Since you won't Alan, I will. When did the KKK start? You know, Robert Byrd (D-WV) is so old he was probably one of the founding father of the white sheets, we do know for a fact that he was a member of the KKK. Wasn't he the one who also called the black folks "*******"?
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8046426,"authorDomain":"katlin"}
the democrats conveniently forget their history when it is convenient for them to do so...but as they like to remind others so often history is history. and the democratic history is one of ugliness and it still is.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8016216,"authorDomain":"bfbell"}
alanwillingham
Great article.... well said..
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- 6 votes
#15 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:43 PM EDT{"commentId":8016694,"authorDomain":"schnoo"}
Sanford's?
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":8017218,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8020034,"authorDomain":"schnoo"}
Was wondering what all the hub-bub was about. Thought someone had died. Just a career dying, I guess.
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- 8 votes
{"commentId":8021800,"authorDomain":"bfbell"}
Thought someone had died. Just a career dying, I guess.
Maybe not.........
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8016223,"authorDomain":"alexcroley"}
Unfortunately, Sarah Palin isn't going anywhere as far as fading away. There is that book that is supposed to come out next year. Enough time to cloak herself for a while away from the public and then come back and do inspirations speeches for 2010 and go around America to promote her book.
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- 1 vote
#16 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:44 PM EDT{"commentId":8016648,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Yes, Mrs Palin has to get the money for all the 15 charges against her - She paid back $10,000 for tickets of her children, now if she left the kids behind then the song was going to be that she is a bad mother. It's curious that she did not use the corporate jet that the Governor had at her disposal and the Chef.
Expected.
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":8017460,"authorDomain":"bigmeat42"}
deter.... what she should have done is paid her own money for her kids ticket okay. That way she wouldn't have been a thief and a good mother
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":8019442,"authorDomain":"katlin"}
maybe she should have flown in a pizza chef from st. louis on the taxpayer dime like "the one" did...or flown her and her family around the country every week on big military jets like pelosi again on the taxpayer....perhaps she could have gotten a free mortgage like dodd or have a prostitution ring run out of their house like franks......THEN would she have appealed to the libdems...probably...then she would have been just like any other democrat..
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":8023149,"authorDomain":"geejay"}
maybe she should have flown in a pizza chef from st. louis on the taxpayer dime like "the one" did...
Um, the pizza guy paid his own way.
.or flown her and her family around the country every week on big military jets like pelosi again on the taxpayer
Pelosi was told by her security detail that she had to commute this way. It's people like you that her security detail are worried about, I'd guess.
Palin used state money illegally to fly her kids around where they were not supposed to be. She screwed up. Deal with it.
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- 6 votes
{"commentId":8031499,"authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
well at least Obama didn't use air force 1 to take his kids around, although he himself joked it was his kids on a joyride to NYC. Nope, instead it was a third of a million dollars for a picture of the plane flying low over Manhattan - yes, good call, Mr. "the buck stops here" President.
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":8033007,"authorDomain":"baconner"}
a. yes photoshop would have been advisable! Classic gov stupidity.
b. Can a leader really be branded as having poor judgement for every stupid decision made by an employee way down the chain of command? Really? We could say... this is a failure in the administrations ability to not hire idiots... or to manage spending in this department, etc but I doubt this one came across Obama's desk.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8046515,"authorDomain":"katlin"}
Palin used state money illegally to fly her kids around where they were not supposed to be. She screwed up. Deal with it.
she did and she paid the state back over $10,000 for it that's how she dealt with it. now has obama bothered to pay back the money that the AF 1 photo shoot cost the taxpayers?
has pelosi bothered to adjust her income for all the field trips she uses our military planes for? NO to both questions . I thought so.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8046845,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
she did and she paid the state back over $10,000 for it that's how she dealt with it.
If a bank robber is caught and returns all he stole, is he now free and clear of wrongdoing?
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8051058,"authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
Good question, Roy, might want to ask that to Pelosi, Reid, John Conyer, Chris Dodd, Bawney Fwank, Barbara Boxer, Charlie Rangel, etc. But wait...have they even repaid the money?? I don't think so, guess that still makes them Congresspeople and ROBBERS.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8052510,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8052780,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
This is a petty non-issue.
Obama was going to Russia, the plane was going to Russia, why not bring his Kids?... wasted space?...
I just watched the speeches at the end of the Meeting Obama had with the Russian President. He will meet with Putian in the Morning. He has negotiated for permission to establish vital transportation lines of supply to Afghanistan over Russian territory, and other important agreements that will save American lives and MillIONS of dollars, and you complain about a plane ticket?
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{"commentId":8053058,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
Good question, Roy, might want to ask that to Pelosi, Reid, John Conyer, Chris Dodd, Bawney Fwank, Barbara Boxer, Charlie Rangel, etc. But wait...have they even repaid the money?? I don't think so, guess that still makes them Congresspeople and ROBBERS.
So I guess what you are saying is that Palin has no more morals than those evil people you mentioned? That she need not set a better example?
Do you suppose ater all the fuss about Palin, that Obama is not smart enoug to buy them tickets or at least have their travel expenses deducted from his taxpayer funded paycheck?
At least it was a business trip for Obama, unlike Bush's frequent flights to his ranch in Texas for vacations. With his wife. And his dog.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8053154,"authorDomain":"bfbell"}
Dan
So Dan you don't think it cost the tax payers for Michelle Obama and the girls to travel with OBAMA, It doesn't take extra security for them, what about her makeup person and hair dresser? I wouldn't be surprised if they go with them as well.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8053223,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8053324,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
Who ever made an issue about the Palin children going with her on trips wasn't the cost, it was the way they were displayed as campaign props. One of the reasons McCian chose her was she had fairly cute kids.
And Again, this is a point of contention with the Palin children was aggravated and blown out of proportion by the Right. A None issue. One of many pointless distractions.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8053805,"authorDomain":"bfbell"}
One of the reasons McCian chose her was she had fairly cute kids.
And you know this how?
You don't think it could have been not only Palin's experience, but also her family values?
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":8069344,"authorDomain":"katlin"}
just more hypocrisy from the left..it is ok for every other politican in the USA to travel with their families at taxpayer expense EXCPT palin...ok I got that. the hypocrisy of the left that she put her kids on display while campaigning...but it is ok for other politicans kids to get up on stage [look at the DNC] tapes. I'm sure the libs remember the obama kids and their obnoxious behavior there and they said "aint' they cute". can't say a word about obama children but it is ok to portray a down syndrome child as a monster and it is funny for a grown man to allude to child rape. like I said the hypocrisy is blatent and at this point laughable..LIBS have NO credibility at this point...
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{"commentId":8070101,"authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
Nope, Hate to tell ya but she is H I S T O R Y . Quit your biatchin'. End of nightmare period.
{"commentId":8070101,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"darharrison-1"}
{"commentId":8071053,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Palin: Politically speaking, 'If I die, I die.'
Well, not according with AP.
I doubt that Sarah is a quitter.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8090547,"authorDomain":"baconner"}
Hang on I don't think anyone here is getting the point right on the family travel issue.
In Alaska state law does not allow for travel expenses for the governor's family except under certain circumstances. Palin violated Alaskan law and thus had to pay back expenses. Period.
Alaska has rules that are unique to Alaska. The office of the POTUS has rules that are unique to the office. Other states may have more relaxed rules regarding travel expenses for the governor's family. The point isn't that money was spent. The point is that money was spent in violation of the rules of her state. That's it. What prompted someone to go looking for ethics violations isn't the issue here.
There is truth to the point that these ethics probes likely would not have been initiated had Palin not been under the microscope of the presidential election, but regardless of what prompted them they are part of Alaskan law and Palin has a responsibility to abide by it.
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{"commentId":8016449,"authorDomain":"dnhunter"}
I've been wondering for quite some time when this investigation would come to completion and what the outcome would be. Looks like today we may have got our answer as another GOP bastion of ethics and reform bites the dust.
Check out page 5 in this story from the Village Voice from October,2008.
http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-10-08/news/the-book-of-sarah/1
And updated from today:
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- 5 votes
#17 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:57 PM EDT{"commentId":8016755,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Mr. Hunter,
If the windows, etc., are due to what the Kos is dumping to us, the lady had to go and write a book to have the money to fight in court. Lawyers are expensive.
{"commentId":8016755,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":8016958,"authorDomain":"MoCowgirl"}
Alan,
Hey, I lived in AR most of my life with Mr Bill Clinton being gov - never voted for him once. Does that answer your question?
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#18 - Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:28 PM EDT{"commentId":8017042,"authorDomain":"MoCowgirl"}
I apologize - this is in reply to determined.
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{"commentId":8017325,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8017402,"authorDomain":"MoCowgirl"}
Reagan was the first president I voted for. I was married to a Marine, and had lived in CA in the late 70's when things were good there. Had relocated to TN by the 1980 election and voted for Reagan for President over Carter. I really wasn't following politics closely as I was in my early 20's with 2 babies, but the Iran thing had me really concerned, and emotions were riding high. In hindsight, I probably would have still voted for Reagan, but would have had better reasons.
But I can guarantee Sarah Palin would be the last person I would vote for President of my beloved United States.
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- 5 votes
#19 - Sat Jul 4, 2009 12:01 AM EDT{"commentId":8023668,"authorDomain":"ammc654"}
Maybe she finally figured out that taking care of her special-needs child and the rest of her children should come before being governor.
I know that men & women both can have careers and successfully parent, but it seems to me that Palin has more than enough on her "family plate" without adding the burden of a job that requires such a heavy commitment. (Based on what has happened to date in her family's personal situation, I'd say she should've been focusing on them even more.)
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- 1 vote
#20 - Sat Jul 4, 2009 12:50 PM EDT{"commentId":8025977,"authorDomain":"fadeplayer"}
That being the case, today Sarah Palin delivered a brilliant and unexpected message that completely took her hate filled enemies by complete surprise
alanwillingham, she could have called a press conference and crapped in her shoe. That would have surprised the hell out of me, but it wouldn't necessarily bode well for her political career. You are attributing a god like status to a woman that either couldn't hack it, or is trying to bury a scandal.
All indications are that Sarah Palin has been desperately chasing media attention every day since her announcement as a VP candidate. Meekly bowing out on a holiday weekend and refusing to serve, yes serve her term as an elected executive is shameful and weak. This reeks of ulterior motive of which we will all undoubtedly find out about soon.
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- 7 votes
#21 - Sat Jul 4, 2009 3:35 PM EDT{"commentId":8026021,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
So what?
All politicians rather to get free attention than to pay for it.
How much cost the message of healthcare from the administration on ABC?
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8026145,"authorDomain":"fadeplayer"}
determined, your response is a bit perplexing. Are you saying that quitting your job and shirking responsibility to the citizens of Alaska is ok, as long as it is done for free media exposure?
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- 6 votes
{"commentId":8026200,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Sarah Palin household is not rich.
Sarah Palin has to pay the bills for the lawyers because her paid opponents brought lawsuits.
Sarah Palin has to be converted in an Accountant and she is not serving the people of Alaska because she has to dedicate her time to all the poop brought and poured into her.
This is what she meant.
From her hours as Governor, she has to dedicate time to personal stuff caused by her to be the only one that accepted the V.P. candidacy because the others did not want to be associated with McCain.
Is this more clear for you?
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8026303,"authorDomain":"fadeplayer"}
Your far reaching assumptions are perfectly clear to me. I'll give you a few assumptions too.
This is not the end of her life in the news cycle. The @!$%# is about to hit the fan for Sarah Palin.
Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.
Frederick Douglass
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- 6 votes
{"commentId":8026487,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8026513,"authorDomain":"fadeplayer"}
I'm sure in the near futue you will begin to see the why, what and how
No arguments here; I bet the whole sordid story gets out shortly.
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- 6 votes
{"commentId":8026995,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
fade
I am ready for the sordid story and I am ready to forgive Sarah Palin.
Like moi are many. We heard all, from the sordid to the latest love story in SC.
Happy now?
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8028276,"authorDomain":"fadeplayer"}
We'll have to wait and see what's causing her odd behavior. It will be harder for me to forgive her given the extent and frequency that she has traveled the low road in the past year while claiming moral high ground. A period of schadenfreude will be in order.
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":8030101,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8026057,"authorDomain":"tappymcwidestance"}
Since Palin'snumber one problem as a vice presidential candidate was being woefully inexperienced, how will she get more experience before 2012 as a Fox commentator and speech maker? I guess she might learn how to make a coherent statement, but if her goal is a presidential run, I fail to see how running away is going to help her.
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- 7 votes
#22 - Sat Jul 4, 2009 3:42 PM EDT{"commentId":8026218,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
We like the way that Palin is and not scripted and submitting questions before hand.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8026510,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8026808,"authorDomain":"kentraci1011"}
and Sarah Palin is George Washington in that analogy? Your the one drinking the koolaid.
{"commentId":8026808,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"kentraci1011"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":8026947,"authorDomain":"cannae234"}
I suppose then Rush Limbaugh is Ben Franklin, and Joe the Plumber is Paul Rivere. I can't believe anyone would compare Sarah Palin or anyone in the GOP to George Washington and the founding fathers, it's beyond absurd.
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- 6 votes
{"commentId":8027019,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Paul Rivere is not the same than Paul Revere.
Who is behind your curtain?
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8027028,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8027186,"authorDomain":"kentraci1011"}
I'm willing to stipulate that Washington was a fine President.
Aside from not having very much experience, what other qualities does soon to be former governor Palin possess that you look for in a leader?
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":8027206,"authorDomain":"cannae234"}
Paul Rivere is not the same than Paul Revere.
No @!$%# Sherlock, it was a misspelling.
The point is that George Washington was not and had not been a government leader in any capacity when he was elected president
Washington was the supreme commander of the Continental Army during the Revolution! My ass he didn't have leadership experience! That, and comparing him to Sarah Palin is incredibly insulting no matter how you put it.
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- 6 votes
{"commentId":8027593,"authorDomain":"redsfan"}
My ass he didn't have leadership experience!
Absolutely right RMM82...Washington had to make some incredibly difficult decisions during the Revolutionary War. He had enemies within the rebel leadership plotting against him, lack of resources, inexperienced army, Congressional dithering, and that's not even counting the British! And as for him not having any "presidential" experience...neither did anyone else. I will always be grateful to Washington for refusing to be "crowned" king of America and for establishing the tradition of only serving two four-year terms as president.
{"commentId":8027593,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"redsfan"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":8028215,"authorDomain":"baconner"}
Since Palin'snumber one problem as a vice presidential candidate was being woefully inexperience
Yeah... and George Washington was a complete failure for the same reason
You're distorting the point. The point is quitting without completing her term is probably going to hurt her if she does run for office again. It does not gurantee she would be "a complete failure," if elected but it has a lot of potential to be used against her in any campaign. I think the argument would go something like...
You enjoyed governing over a prosperous period for Alaska (high oil tax revenue, etc) but quit when the economy got tough. How can we count on you to take your responsibility as president seriously if you didn't take your responsbility as governer seriously?
That doesn't mean she can't counter such an argument and win another election, but it raises a very tough set of questions that she will have to combat in a campaign. That's the point and I think it's valid.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8030175,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8030414,"authorDomain":"cannae234"}
alanwillingham: none of the Palins, or McCains, or any political figure of the last 50 years is even remotely on the same level of George Washington, period. Your comparisons are silly.
{"commentId":8030414,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"cannae234"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8030612,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8031117,"authorDomain":"schnoo"}
alan
An unbiased observer might observe you were getting your butt kicked on your own thread.
If one could find an unbiased observer.
{"commentId":8031117,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"schnoo"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8034545,"authorDomain":"bfbell"}
Gosh Alan....that was a very good response...
{"commentId":8034545,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"bfbell"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":8068775,"authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
I believe Alan is kicking their tails and they don't even know it!
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8026697,"authorDomain":"sternzy"}
good game
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- 1 vote
#23 - Sat Jul 4, 2009 4:37 PM EDT{"commentId":8027158,"authorDomain":"lorenzo-carrillo"}
Those of you who think Palin is capable, willing, and able to win the PRESIDENCY is absolutely senile. She is about as dumb as a door knob (and Georgie Bush) too of course. You people who think she can do a better more efficent job in cleaning up Georgie's mess should simply not keep up with the news and media. She does not have it, nor will she ever have it. Palin is a sorry @$$ Alaskan you can see The Soviet Union from her back-yard.
She has as good of a chance to win the Presidency as Michael Jackson does.
{"commentId":8027158,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"lorenzo-carrillo"}
- 4 votes
#24 - Sat Jul 4, 2009 5:10 PM EDT{"commentId":8027212,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8027277,"authorDomain":"lorenzo-carrillo"}
Oh Palin said it... Tina just moked her on it. She does not have a prayer. Shoot might as well have Cheney run again. LOL
{"commentId":8027277,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"lorenzo-carrillo"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":8027349,"authorDomain":"computersplus99"}
{"commentId":8028507,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
A clarification....
In her Sept. 11 interview with ABC's Charlie Gibson, Sarah Palin had this to say about Russia: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
{"commentId":8028507,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":8028657,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Better.
Your clarification was the right answer to Gibson.
Watching again the tape of Sarah Palin, her red coat looks big on her.
I hope that isn't a very serious illness.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8046659,"authorDomain":"katlin"}
In her Sept. 11 interview with ABC's Charlie Gibson, Sarah Palin had this to say about Russia: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
and you know for a fact that this is not true ? you have been there? slate , sept 15th 2008..unable to post links.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8046916,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
and you know for a fact that this is not true ?
I believe it is true. That's why I posted the link. She can't see it from her house, but you can see Russia from an Aleutian island.
What makes you think I was taking exception to that?
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8027286,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
Funny. She quit, she's a quiter, cut and running as fast as het fat ass can go, with only 2 and a half years into a governorship. And it's a strategy for the future? Gaining more experience. What now?
Is She going to get a job on Fix News with that other future RNC candidate Huckabee? Who will be who's running mate? Maybe they can flip a coin to see who gets on top.
Yes, Liberals are afraid. LOL.
{"commentId":8027286,"threadId":"618875","contentId":"2995467","authorDomain":"Zoilus"}
- 8 votes
#25 - Sat Jul 4, 2009 5:19 PM EDT{"commentId":8442271,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
How long were Obama and Hillary in their first and second term for their Senatorial seats?
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